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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote franciscosan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug 2015 at 06:11
General Washington, he only won 3 battles (out of 7), but he ran away when he lost, to fight another day.  The British thought that that was very unfair and that he should have done the gentlemanly thing of surrendering when he lost.  Oh yah, I think he did other things too;)

War Dogs, recently saw the movie "Max" about a war dog (Belgian Malinois) whose master is killed, and comes home and is adopted by his master's family.  Of course, this is a fictional account, but at the end of the movie they had pictures of war dogs since WWI.  Some of the war dogs from WWI are in gas masks and suits.  I find it fascinating that man creates a hell, and "man's best friend" does the crazy thing of joining man in it.  The fact that they are bred and trained for it, doesn't diminish my amazement.

I wouldn't call him a hero, but I have a grudging respect for Ho Chi Minh.  Lirelou, I don't know if it is true, but I kind of feel that the US would not have gotten into Vietnam without a push from DeGaule.
Also, the McCarthy trials kind of wiped out the state department workers who had worked with Uncle Ho in WWII.  I get the impression that Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist first, and a communist second.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lirelou Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug 2015 at 15:27
Franciscosan, While Ho is not one of my heroes, I do respect his accomplishments and understand why he became a communist when he did. In many ways, he was like Lenin. There was no one in the 1940s State Department who ever worked with Ho Chi Minh, and De Gaulle resigned the French leadership in January 1946. He expected massive street demonstrations would force his recall, but they never happened, so he remained out of government until May 1958.

There are many who view HCM as a nationalist first and a communist second. But in the 1920s and 30s, "nationalist" had a more narrow meaning in political science. The Chinese Kuo Ming Tang and Vietnamese VNQDD were nationalist parties within that meaning. HCM adhered to Lenin's 1920 theses on Colonialism, which saw nationalism as a stage former colonies must go through to lay the ground for communism. He was first and foremost a communist, as evidenced by the introduction of collectivisation under the euphemism "land reform' in 1955-56, and the drastic measures they took against those who opposed it. (land reform was again tried post-1975, but HCM had died in 1969). But yes, he was first and foremost always a Vietnamese. So were his opponents in and out of the Party.

Two books that might interest you: Dixee Bartholomew-Feis's "Ho Chi Minh and the OSS", and Sophie Quinn-Judge's "Ho Chi Minh: The hidden years." Quinn-Judge also believes him a nationalist first. Despite her eminent qualifications, I disagree.
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Augustus, the first emperor of Rome. He was very talented in so many ways. He had success where Julius Caesar failed. Augustus was an extremely competent ruler.

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