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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote All systems exist as as subsets of larger systems, and what are systems? The first biological creatures differentiated rough/smooth or uniform, nonuniform etc.  That began the creation of multiple systems. Patterns of patterns and systems of patterns. All life is pushing boundaries and those who break boundaries are at least temporarily edging out the competition. Our earth, the biological system, offers us a connection to a unified field of information. You could call it spirit and it would be accurate.

That may well be the case on Earth, but it ain't necessarily so if we assume that other inter-galactic life forms exist.

The evolution of earthly creatures has been tracked, studied and annotated by many recognised scientists, but we won't know about other life forms until one is found by humankind.

I don't know if other intergalactic life forms exist, but I'm not prepared to say that they don't.


Yes and intergalactic suggests at least a location that we can observe bc rules of matter have been understood to such an extent. 

We can't jump out of the system that we operate in unless we are using something other than matter like thought
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Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).
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Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).

Quote I think, therefore I am.-René Descartes
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).

Quote I think, therefore I am.-René Descartes
Oui monsieur. 
All these philosophers got pieces of the puzzles and humans have a grasp on the hidden reality very early on in civilizations IMHO. If we all have access to a collective field, a place that is accessed through desire, prayer or simple meditation then we can seed any reality that we like. The basic processes of evolution(thought experiments) will support successful endeavors in the macro, world, universe or the micro, individuated consciousness. 
Something as over done as a giraffes neck found a niche because of profitability. Bending light to use as cloaking device could be called an evolution in technology and the potential profitability is off the charts. New technologies affect the probability of future events but we don't see the picture fully unless its in our material reality.

What purpose would the intelligent life serve? Are we sending ourselves a message from the future?
I think it very likely that there are other life forms and that we will encounter them before we blow everything up.

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Just in the past few days, Astronomers have received short bursts of radio signals from outer space.

They haven't pinpointed exactly where from yet, not do they know the meaning, but they are not ruling out an alien life form.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Just in the past few days, Astronomers have received short bursts of radio signals from outer space.

They haven't pinpointed exactly where from yet, not do they know the meaning, but they are not ruling out an alien life form.
Yes the first signal happened a year after CHIME observatory was set up in Canada, not even six months later we have more signals. I am glad to see these developments, I think :)


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Yes, I obviously missed the date when these transmissions were first heard.
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Hawking thought that aliens would be hostile and more advanced than us.  It could be like the Indians meeting the pilgrims, and getting smallpox.
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And we all know how that ended, don't we?
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There is a show on FNX(??) (first nations channel?) called Indians and Aliens.

Cool pictures.  But I see nothing that I can sink my teeth into, and chew.  (nothing substantial).  It would be nice if they actually gave a citation for Black Elk, and would pronounce 'Pleiades' correctly.  But neither of those make or break the report. 
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Quote The laws of physics are uniform for the entire universe, now we might not know all the laws, but astronomically and physically, they are uniform.
Nope. They are not. They conform to conditions the universe prpvides and whilst our sciences are getting quite good at predictions and explanations, there are many anomalies we don't understand/ Even basic arithmetic has recently been criticised for basing itself on rules that are, basically, wrong. I don't know why. To me two plus two equals four and it works well enough for my needs - probably yours too seeing as you perceive a conformal steady state existence. But our science is based on what we understand thus far. There is plenty out there we don't know or understand which will affect the rules we currently apply. After all, physics seemed complete, conformal, and logical when Isaac Newton realised sitting under an apple tree in a gravitic field had potential consequences.
 
But consider the work of Einstein. His universe is fundamentally dynamic and mutable, since everything is relative and influenced by existence around it. Thus the mass of Earth warps space in such a way that gravity results. It predicts situations called singularities where physics as we understand it breaks down completely. Worse still, consider quantum mechanics. On the small scale, the universe becomes weird and unpredictable, a mass of conflicting and in some cases 'illegal' situations (such as partickles being in two places at once). The universe appears quite ordinary on the scale we observe it, but our observations are limited by our perceptions, preconceptions, communication, and lifespan. We don't observe all of it. Did you know that our galaxy has another galaxy orbiting it made largely of dark matter? No-one can actually see and no-one yet fully understands the implications.
 
And what is the next stage of understanding? A simple extrapolation of existing knowledge or another quantum leap of new laws, equations, television documentaries, and baffled students at universities? To say it won't happen is rather foolish. To say what will happen is probably foolish. Nothing dates faster than predictions of the future.
Quote  Chemistry is uniform, and chemistry is divided into two parts, inorganic and organic chemistry.  Organic chemistry involves carbon which is exceptionally versatile in forming long complex molecules.  Silicon is a distant second as far as forming molecules for life... 
...Again, Silicon might be a possible basis for life, but it is nowhere as versatile as carbon.
that's true for the conditions and chemical emphasis we find on Earth. Another world, with different conditions, different degrees of chemical sources, may well be suitable for life. I do agree that so far it appears chemistry in the galaxy is optimised around certain interactions. This would however be simply circumstantial.

Quote Gravity, stellar fusion, magnetism, spectra, as far as we can see (both physically and conceptually) are uniform.  Physics sets the stage for chemistry, chemistry sets the stage for biology (as we know it).
Gravity is not uniform in the slightest. It is affected by velocity for one thing. The faster you go, the heavier you get, and I'm not talking about momentum, there is a real property of 'drag' caused by mass under motion.
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And yet, we have _an_ understanding of what a star is, what a planet is, what a galaxy is.  That is not to say that there are not exceptions to the rule, or tweaks of the rule, but spectrum analysis basically works, doppler shift analysis basically works, we may refine it, but we don't throw it out and throw up our hands in dismay of ever learning anything.

Newton is still pretty good for predicting orbits.  With Mercury, Newton is inadequate.  Mercury because it is close to the sun's gravity well (in the well?), doesn't follow Newton's predictions, or so I recall.

See I would say that gravity is fairly uniform, it is just not separate from velocity.  I imagine there is a relationship between mass and velocity.

recently saw a youtube video that argued, amongst other things, that physics constants are not entirely constant.  That sounds interesting, but that does not mean there is not some underlying regularity.  Does gravity slowly decline, increase, fluctuate?  I am not arguing that the rules don't change and our understanding with them, I am arguing that there are rules, there is order, and science depends on order.  That doesn't mean that there isn't chaos.  And that doesn't even mean that we can ultimately overcome chaos. 
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The constant speed of light keeps us wondering whether the universe is finite. If the universe follows the biological patterns in nature then it must iterate on itself. Every cell that's ever been observed builds patterns upon iteration and oscillation. That is the cell's opportunity for differentiation and growth or evolution. The natural world is surely patterned on the larger universal paths of growth only scaled down and observable. How would the speed of light be constant without a finite system?

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From constraints arising from both the cosmic microwave background and the large-scale structure of the Universe combined, we can conclude that if the Universe is finite and loops back in on itself, it needs to be at least 250 times the extent of the part we observe. Because we live in three dimensions, 250 times the radius means (250)3 times the volume, or more than 15 million times as much space. But, big as that is, it still isn't infinite. A lower bound of the Universe being at least 11 trillion light years in all directions is tremendous, but it's still finite.
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Quote How would the speed of light be constant without a finite system?

The same way that time is circular, not linear-if in fact it is circular, which I don't believe that it is. If light travelled in a never decreasing circle it's speed would be maintained.

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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote How would the speed of light be constant without a finite system?

The same way that time is circular, not linear-if in fact it is circular, which I don't believe that it is. If light travelled in a never decreasing circle it's speed would be maintained.

See???Wink
I fear do not see. Remember the old "Double Slit" experiment?
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The Pyrrhonic sceptic rejected everything.  If you told him not to play on the highway, because he would get run over, he would question that, up to the point of being run over.  The academic sceptic believed that nothing was certain, but would believe in the conventional wisdom.

We know many things, or rather we think many things are so, to doubt them is foolish, and counterproductive.  Some of what we know is conscious, but a large part of it is subconscious.  I doubt that even a Pyrrhonic sceptic would not duck if a brick was thrown at him.  How would he know that the brick would hurt him if it hits him?  How would he know it would hit him (instead of turning into a bouquet of flowers)?

I think a more interesting question than do we really know?  Is how do we know?  Of course, one could say that 'we don't _really_ know, we _virtually_ know, but how silly is that?  Or how about define 'really' (in other words, define reality, give three examples).  As Robin Williams once said, "reality, wow, what a concept!"  Do we 'really' know reality?  How useful is such a question?
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When looking at archaeology news headlines I'm staggered by the new discoveries and new ways of thinking about the past. The last article especially, wow- now we have a Denisovan Cave in Siberia and a baby girl hybrid of Denisovan and Neanderthal lineage.
Some old stories were so carefully held together without paper and ink (multiple flood stories, archetypal storytelling). Sometimes erased by war, bloody Romans! Yet now it seems hopeful that more light will be shed on persistent questions about human history. Would the past be important to us if we were not important to the past?
Don't we create the significance of history by being here to observe it? 

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Friday, February 1

Nine Tombs Uncovered in Upper Egypt

ASWAN, EGYPT—Ahram Online reports that members of the Qubbet El-Hawa Research Project, led by Martin Bommas of Macquarie University, have uncovered six Old Kingdom mastaba tombs; two Old Kingdom shaft tombs, one of which has an intact shaft; and one rock-cut tomb containing multiple burials on the Nile’s west bank in Upper Egypt. Bommas said the burial chamber of one of the tombs was looted in antiquity by thieves who broke in through the tomb’s rear wall. The entrance to the tomb was carefully sealed with mud bricks. To read about another recent discovery in Egypt, go to “Mummy Workshop.”

Maya Artifacts Recovered from Guatemala’s Lake Petén Itzá

KRAKÓW, POLAND—Science in Poland reports that teams of Guatemalan and Polish researchers recovered several hundred Maya artifacts from Lake Petén Itzá, where the Classic period Maya capital of Nojpetén was located on Flores Island. Polish team leader Magdalena Krzemień of Jagiellonian University suggested some of the artifacts had been used in religious rituals to the north of the island, perhaps to honor Chaak, a rain god. For example, divers found three stacked bowls that had been placed on larger three-legged vessels, one of which held a nearly eight-inch-long obsidian blade. “Its presence is clearly associated with ritual and sacrifice,” Krzemień said. The top bowl in the stack held fragments of burned wood and obsidian. “It is a mystery how the Mayans were able to deposit the offering so that the vessels did not scatter over a larger surface,” added underwater archaeologist Mateusz Popek of Nicolaus Copernicus University. “We suspect that they were dropped to the bottom in a net.” To read in-depth about a Maya settlement in the same area called Nixtun-Ch’ich’, go to “The City at the Beginning of the World.”

Three Hand Images Found in Spain’s Altamira Cave

SANTILLANA DEL MAR, SPAIN—According to an El País report, three previously unrecorded hand stencils have been found on the walls of northern Spain’s Altamira Cave by researchers from the Museum of Altamira and members of the Handpas Project. The painted hand images, which are in poor condition, are thought to be more than 20,000 years old. They were found during work to document Paleolithic paintings in the cave, including six other hand prints. In all, eight of the painted hands, which range in color from dark violet to red, are located on the ceiling of the Polychrome Room, where images of horses, steppe bison, a doe, and what may be a wild boar were also painted. The ninth hand painting is in the room farthest from the cave’s mouth, and is thought to be the impression of a child’s hand that was covered with black pigment. The newly discovered hand paintings were digitally photographed and added to a 3-D catalog of Paleolithic hand images in Europe assembled by members of the Handpas Project. For more, go to “Late Paleolithic Masterpieces.”

Three Ancient Quarries Discovered on Greek Island

KARYSTOS, GREECE—According to The Greek Reporter, three ancient quarries were identified during the construction of wind farms on the Greek island of Euboea. The first quarry, located at the southeastern tip of the island, consists of two main faces of rock that were carved into the side of a mountain. Researchers also found large blocks of marble and two columns scattered in the area. The second quarry, featuring two small rock faces and some carvings, was found on a rocky hillside near a main road. Rock chips left over from mining were also found at this site. To the northwest of this mine, archaeologists found a larger quarry with sheer faces of rock that had been carved into the hillside. Rock chips, three partially finished columns, and a circular structure where tools may have been washed were found on the ground at this quarry site. Marble from this area was used to build pillars in nearby Athens and was transported to Rome, where it can still be seen in the agora. To read about the recent discovery of a 1,700-year-old excerpt of the Odyssey in Greece, go to “Epic Find.”

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Thursday, January 31

Colonization of the Americas May Have Cooled Global Climate

LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM—BBC reports that a team of scientists from University College London have determined that European colonization of the New World caused the death of so many indigenous people that the event, known as the “Great Dying,” may have impacted the world's climate. Led by geographer Alexander Koch, the team calculated that some 60 million people lived in the Americas before European contact, and that the population dropped to just five or six million within a hundred years as a result of newly introduced diseases, warfare, and social upheavel. The demographic collapse allowed cleared land equal to the area of France to be reclaimed by forest and savannah. The team hypothesizes that the new vegetation would have taken enough carbon from the atmosphere to cause global surface temperatures to fall, resulting in a cooling period known to history as the “Little Ice Age.” To read more about the Great Dying, go to “Conquistador Contagion.”

Wall of 1617 Jamestown Church Uncovered

JAMESTOWN, VIRGINIA—Archaeologists have uncovered the western wall of Jamestown's 1617 church, according to a report from the Daily Press. The building hosted the first representative assembly meeting in European North America in 1619, and was the first of several churches built at the site. Excavators revealed the wall after stripping back a five-inch layer of concrete, brick, and dirt underneath the tower of a later seventeenth-century church, which still stands and is the sole remaining aboveground structure from Jamestown's 1607–1699 tenure as the captial of Virginia. Researchers expressed surprise that the 1617 church's foundations managed to survive intact throughout the construction of later buildings. The discovery allows them to finally document the complete original footprint. Archaeological investigations at the site were first undertaken by the Association for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities at the turn of the twentieth century. To read more about archaeology at Jamestown, go to “Knight Watch.

Evidence of Earliest British Beer Discovered

CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND—According to a BBC report, archaeologists have identified traces of the earliest known beer brewing in Britain during construction work on the A14 highway between the city of Cambridge and the market town of Huntingdon. They discovered tiny fragments of charred grains and bran dating as far back as 400 B.C. that, when analyzed under a microscope, exhibited signs of having gone through a fermentation process. The absence of fine flour among the fragments suggests the fragments are the residue of a beer-making process rather than the remnants of bread baking. A team of more than 200 excavators from Museum of London Archaeology Headland Infrastructure is at work on the massive A14 project, investigating 33 sites across nearly 900 acres. To read more about the archaeology of ancient brewing, go to “Letter from Ireland: Mystery of the Fulacht Fiadh.”

Triangle Markings Studied in Chalcolithic Stone Bowls

HAIFA, ISRAEL—According to a report from The Times of Israel, mysterious incised triangular markings have been found on hundreds of basalt vessels unearthed in the Levant and dating to the Chalcolithic period, roughly 4500 to 3900 B.C. University of Haifa graduate student Rivka Chasan first noticed the odd marks on the inside rims of the stone bowls several years ago, and since then the small, downward-pointing triangles have been identified on vessels uncovered throughout much of present-day Israel. The triangles appear to have meant something to the people of the time, suggests Danny Rosenberg, also of the University of Haifa. “They’re all the same size, facing down, nearly always in the inside,” he said. “There were rules, and they were not just aesthetic rules. What they were for, we don’t yet know.” The researchers believe the vessels were produced in central places of manufacture and then transported to settlements for use. The basalt bowls were labor-intensive to make, and given that pottery, which can be worked much more quickly, was also in use at the time, the researchers believe the stone vessels must have held a traditional appeal. They are often found alongside other valuable items, such as ivory and copper artifacts. To read about decorated bowls from the American Southwest, go to “On the Trail of the Mimbres.”

Wednesday, January 30

Scientists Develop New Dates for Russia's Denisova Cave

JENA, GERMANY—A new timeline for the occupation of Denisova Cave has been created by teams of researchers led by Zenobia Jacobs and Richard Roberts of the University of Wollongong, and Tom Higham and Katerina Douka of the University of Oxford, according to a report in Science Magazine. Located in Russia’s Altai Mountains, Denisova Cave boasts high ceilings and three chambers overlooking the Anui River, which made it a desirable place for hominins to live. The studies used multiple methods, including optically stimulated luminescence and radiocarbon dating, to date the cave’s sediments, tools, and fossils. The new chronology suggests the Denisovans arrived in the cave more than 100,000 years earlier than previously thought, or about 287,000 years ago, and left about 55,000 years ago. Tools from the earliest layers look different from Neanderthal tools recovered from other caves in Siberia, and may have been crafted by Denisovans. Neanderthal remains in the cave were dated to between 193,000 and 97,000 years ago, and the remains of a child whose mother was a Neanderthal and father was a Denisovan were dated to between 118,100 and 79,100 years ago. Scientists still want to know who created the 43,000- to 49,000-year-old ornaments made of bone, teeth, ivory, and ostrich eggshell found in the cave. They resemble ornaments made by modern humans living in Eurasia, but no modern human remains have been found in Denisova Cave. Modern humans are known to have lived in Siberia around that time, however. To read more about the discovery of the child whose mother was a Neanderthal and father was a Denisovan, go to “Hominin Hybrid.”




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Vee-thanks for a great post.

That's right, almost on a weekly basis everything new is old again.

I still believe that there's a lot  more uncovering to do with respect to ancient seafarers and exploration.

Time will tell.
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Quote The constant speed of light keeps us wondering whether the universe is finite.
The Speed of Light is not constant. It maxes out at C, which is the figure we get for travel through space, but light travelling through translucent objects is slowed down considerably. I don't know if this is the same sort of thing or merely an effect of gravity, but light from the centre of the Sun takes a very long time to reach the surface (then takes eight minutes to reach us).
 
Quote See I would say that gravity is fairly uniform, it is just not separate from velocity.  I imagine there is a relationship between mass and velocity.
The relationship you imagine was established by Einstein. Mass increases with velocity and this would prevent acceleration beyond C, because infinite power would be required to overcome the momentum of infinite mass. it's also the reason why vehicles could not get close to C anyway.
 
By the way, monkeys in the New World. I missed that one. No biggie. Animal migration occurred just as much as human. In fact, during one interglacial period, their were monkeys in Britain. The Romans talk about using monkeys in their early judicial punishments indicating local populations.
 
Quote I think a more interesting question than do we really know?  Is how do we know?  Of course, one could say that 'we don't _really_ know, we _virtually_ know, but how silly is that?  Or how about define 'really' (in other words, define reality, give three examples).  As Robin Williams once said, "reality, wow, what a concept!"  Do we 'really' know reality?  How useful is such a question?
Everyone likes to think they have a grasp, and usually, a better grasp than anyone else, on reality, though in truth that concept revolves more about observation and wits than any true understanding.
 
The problem is that reality is possibly not the fixed standard we like to believe. Human beings like fixed standards, something solid we can relate too, whereas the unknown is scary. I've mentioned this before, but the world you see is not the world that exists in front of you. The image is generated by the brain, not the world outside. Our eyes are sensitive to light, or rather, a range of electromagnetic radiation, which sends a message to the brain which colours in the image to help us interpret what's out there. The world therefore has no actual appearance as such, and colour is merely a sensory trick that nature has kindly awarded us with, because light is simply light. It has no colour. The brain is coding various wavelengths into visual categories.
 
Some scientists go further. They now theorise that the universe is not entirely real at all, but is in fact some vast hologram based on information from the periphery. I can't recall why they believe this but it is a theoretical possibility based on what we know thus far.
 
Of course organised religion has always established what reality is. It helped take away the scary unknown element of the world we once experienced without understanding, or perhaps at least gave it a solid structure of a sort even if it remained scary. It also satisfies part of our social instinct to obey the group leader in that an all powerful being must be respected and heeded, which has proven very useful for the more exploitative members of humanity trough the ages.
 
What is my reality? Probably different to yours. But then, even in this day and age of world wide science and education, we still can't agree what's real.
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"Some scientists go further. They now theorise that the universe is not entirely real at all, but is in fact some vast hologram based on information from the periphery. I can't recall why they believe this but it is a theoretical possibility based on what we know thus far."

The senses can be manipulated, our vision, spatial relations and optical anomalies occurring in nature all question the validity of our perception of the material world.
Also at the quantum level there are loops and the loops are voids just as the Buddhists believe-Emptiness


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