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Turks,Iranians,Afghanis & Persians In Central Asia

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    Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 15:29
In regions like Central Asia especially in Iran, which tribes would identify with being Persian?

And which parts of Iran,Turkey,and Central Asia would people identify with the Turkish identity?

I am wondering how spread out are the Afghani people in Central Asia.

I am also aware that the identity of Iranians and Persians have been distorted over the years,whats the difference between them now in any one's opinion?

Edited by AksumVanguard - 28 Jun 2011 at 15:30
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Well Iran is the name of the country.  So anyone with an Iranian citizenship is Iranian.  Persian is the official language of that country.  Internally it was very uncommon for people to call themselves Fars/Persian, more commonly people affiliate with ostans or towns unless they are members of a more distinct minority like Kurds.  As far as tribes go then they affiliate with their tribe - the concept of nationalism that you're implying is not really present in tribes you could call Persian.

In terms of Iranian vs Persian  it's a bit of a weird one.  People abroad refer to themselves as Persian if they are a little bit nostalgic/proud given historical connotation or equally if they're ashamed of the name of Iran and its modern connotations.  I have seen people do this whose heritage is Azeri Turk, Kurd and Arab.  They are primarily royalists or just simply have that issue with the association of the name Iran with Islamic militancy.

The idea behind having the country internationally recognised as Iran was that it is an umbrella term you can use without alienating other groups which Persia might have done.  It also has a deep rooted historical resonance because it is used in classical literature such as the ShahNameh with which pretty much all ethnic groups identify.

Hope that helps.
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