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    Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 11:00

Ever since the creation of complex societies there have been high/aristocratic  culture and low/folk culture.  Pop culture is simply the folk culture of our time. 

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Most people lived like grass for most of human history, they just existed but never went deep enough at something, pretty much like a plant... I'm not an elitist but why our age
should be different Sleepy

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I think if we have to characterize culture I stick to the traditional "high" v. "Low" culture, as they frequently operate within increasingly alienated spheres. I don't think one can truly speak of culture unless things such as "American Idol" and "Hello" magazine are also included. I mean those are the less refined things which have brought the past alive in a certain sense. Also don't forget that what was once popular culture often turns into "high" culture, such as the case of Opera. Most operas were composed in a matter of weeks and singers were frequently asked, in the middle of a performance, to sing a random number - even if it had nothing to do with the opera being performed. Opera is today considered to be "high" culture. Schubert, an alcoholic, did not write the Lieder which are now considered hallmarks of Classical/Romantic form for the purposes of idealistic art, but to earn money for his habit.

Now, I'm not arguing that every piece of popular culture is in actuality a priceless gem which ought to be preserved throughout the ages. In my opinion, despite the political and social changes there are many things which are being compromised, such as attention spans and many aspects of life which have previously bound groups together. I realize, however, how many generations before me must have said the same thing.
I think one thing the twentieth century was able to do was to create a really cool irony (if that's what it ought to be called): popular culture and more "Avant-garde" culture seemed to take elements from each other which actually increased the separation of the areas in which they operated. I have studied this extensively with Post War music and I find it very interesting.

Anyway, I think that what frequently happens when we complain about popular culture what we are really complaining about is an almost hedonistic engagement in escapism and distraction, instead of application of citizenry to what might be described as "meaningful" pursuits.
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Well, there are actually a lot of technological, social and political change going on. And the vibrancy of cultural creativism can always be discussed since it changes all the tiem and the heart of it moves from place to place.
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Originally posted by Carcharodon Carcharodon wrote:

Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

I demand equal time for "Mom Culture"! Evil Smile Entertainment and the Media hardly constitute culture mediums, and often what is termed "pop" is essentially an assault on the traditional respect for continuity, which is the glue in cultural identity.


All societys change and pop is many times just a reflection of some of the changes. In our highly technological and media ridden western world these changes are getting faster and the cultural mirroring of it can because of that seem rather kaleidoscopic.
 
Speaking of "change", Carcharadon, can you spare any? I doubt that what you classify as change has social and cultural parameters beyond the decadence of merchandising? Teeny boppers are teeny boppers, be they Frankie Avalon and Paul Anka or the Jonas Brothers and "Hanna Montana"! Did not Elvis Presley change into a caricature of Liberace and Michael Jackson become a nasty "Peter Pan"? Faddism is hardly culture and escapes from reality certainly do not constitute change. Culural creativity was far more vibrant at the opening of the 20th century, only to become a caricature of itself by its closing decade. After discovering the sterility of "progress" what is left but the malaise [pace Jimmy Carter] of rampant consumerism pushing the envelope as "change".


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Originally posted by drgonzaga drgonzaga wrote:

I demand equal time for "Mom Culture"! Evil Smile Entertainment and the Media hardly constitute culture mediums, and often what is termed "pop" is essentially an assault on the traditional respect for continuity, which is the glue in cultural identity.


All societys change and pop is many times just a reflection of some of the changes. In our highly technological and media ridden western world these changes are getting faster and the cultural mirroring of it can because of that seem rather kaleidoscopic.
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Not only that - restaurants that serve pappardelle should also be required to serve mammardelle.
 
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I demand equal time for "Mom Culture"! Evil Smile Entertainment and the Media hardly constitute culture mediums, and often what is termed "pop" is essentially an assault on the traditional respect for continuity, which is the glue in cultural identity.
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Tricky question uncle G. It should be oxymoron, no? Popular Culture. But it should use two contradictory ideas. I'm confused. Confused
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Oxymoron? Contradiction?
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I won't deny how strong pop culture influence on someone's life. As me myself is one of the Naruto's fans. Tongue.. In fact, whenever I have some formal event which I need to attend, definitely I need to refer to my main reference - Hello and OK magazines. Dos and Don'ts to wear to party.. yeps! It helps. for sure. LOL

However, based on what is happening now, we can say teenagers are mainly affected by the pop culture implication. They are being targeted  (mass media, entertainment industry, fashion industry & etc) for the spread of this culture. In big cities, (as in KL too) most of teenagers are being forced to believe that fashion & music are something trendy and must be followed. Red carpet event becomes a trend worldwide when no one care what the actors and actresses wear for any award event in Malaysia back then. So.. everybody wants to experience Hollywood style.  Individual status is being measured from the brand she/he wears. The actors and actresses or musicians/singers are being called as trendsetter or 'idol'. I just don't understand, how can people see someone who is not even finished high school as an 'idol' or role model. I know it sounds improper to judge someone by she/her education level. But most of these so called 'popular' people they usually involved in drugs or crimes.
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Some utterances of Asian of pop culture is a mix of native and western influences, as for example Manga which has its roots in both traditional Japanese art and Western art and comics. This amalgam has become very popular and is now conquering the world.

And Chinese film becomes increasingly more and more popular and are spreading its influence.

One of the benefits is that we are offered some alternatives to the American pop culture and its sometimes rather one dimensional view of, and descriptions, of the world. Now at least we can get some glimpses from other cultures and their way of seeing things and portraiting the world.

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What is pop/popular culture? How it started? How pop culture influences world society today?

Definition by http://www.elitetvdownloads.com/articles/pop_culture_on_society.asp
Popular culture can be generally defined as the latest movements portrayed in media, including print, online, and on screen, as followed closely by the trend savvy.

Originally posted by <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_culture target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_culture</a> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_culture wrote:


Popular culture and the mass media have a symbiotic relationship: each depends on the other in an intimate collaboration."

K. Turner (1984), p.4


In add, nowadays, Korean & Japanese pop culture (K-pop & J-pop) are well accepted by Asia population.

Originally posted by <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop</a> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop wrote:


The popularity of K-pop is often considered a part of the rise of the Korean Wave, the recent surge of popularity of contemporary South Korean culture in Asia.


It is more like Asian people imitating western (US) music, fashion & etc in the beginning and evolved but what benefit people can get from this?

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