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This is Sparta: Sparta's militaristic culture

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    Posted: 04 May 2015 at 09:54
It's really interesting how unique and dynamic Spartan society was. Arguably, its an 'ideal 'authoritarian state which has never been recreated in the modern era.

From The Global State:

"Sparta was the world’s first proto-fascist state, demanding absolute, lifelong loyalty and obedience from its citizens. Militaristic and fanatical, Spartan society was unique and unlike any culture before or since. Praised by Adolf Hitler as the “the first racialist state” worthy of admiration, Spartan society was brutal, merciless, and ruthless. It was organized for one exclusive purpose – crafting and maintaining a powerful, dependable military. From birth, Spartan citizens were required to train or serve in the army for their entire lives. With an entire society dedicated to the perfection of warfare, the Spartans were an unrivaled military force on the peninsula.


Spartan Society

To solidify his proposed caste system, Lycurgus divided the Spartans into three strict classes:
- Spartiates, or citizens responsible for governing and protecting Sparta and were the only members of the armed forces
- Periokoi, those who had failed the Agoge/free non-citizens
- Helots, or state owned serfs that were exploited for manual labor by Sparta’s citizen-army

Citizens of Sparta had to be able to trace their lineage directly to the city’s founding families and complete the extensive Agoge training program. In essence, all Spartan citizens had to be both from a noble family and be athletic and disciplined enough to pass the Agoge. This way, Sparta’s armed forces were kept physically capable and ‘racially elite’. Those who failed the Agoge became perioikoi, removing their family from the direct linage and forfeiting the chance for their offspring to become full Spartan citizens. When one man argued against Lycurgus’s discriminatory, proposed class system and suggested that Sparta should set up a democracy, Lycurgus wittily replied: “If you want equality, begin with your own family.”

The helots, ancient Greek for ‘captives’, were the largest class in ancient Sparta. They were state owned serfs, responsible for manual labor and farming. As Spartan citizens were exclusively full-time, lifelong soldiers, Spartan society depended heavily on the helots for domestic production and economic stability. Spartan’s saw the helots as racially inferior, and ruthlessly exploited them for their physical labor. As the helots always significantly outnumbered actual Spartan citizens, the very real threat of a helot revolt terrified the Spartans."

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"The term "fascismo" was coined by the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini (1883 - 1945) and the self-described "philosopher of Fascism" Giovanni Gentile (1875 - 1944). It is derived from the Latin word "fasces", an ancient Roman symbol consisting of a bundle of rods tied around an axe, used to suggest "strength through unity". It was originally used to refer specifically to Mussolini's political movement that ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943, but has subsequently also been used to describe other regimes."

"It(Fascism) acknowledges the roles of private property and the profit motive as legitimate incentives for productivity, but only insofar as they do not conflict with the interests of the state. Fascist governments tend to nationalize key industries, closely manage their currencies and make massive state investments. They also tend to introduce price controls, wage controls and other types of economic planning measures (such as state-regulated allocation of resources, especially in the financial and raw materials sectors)."

Economically this has been norm since 2008. Or maybe even back to Glass-Steagall Act 1995. And the hierarchy of Sparta hasn't changed. It's just buying power over strength and endurance, maybe no difference.
Did war wipe them out? No one left to reproduce?


Edited by Vanuatu - 13 May 2015 at 03:23
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Recommend me, please, also some book sources on this topicSmile
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