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    Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 18:56
In honor of the 4th of July (and the upcoming Bastille day), 
here is a little bit about explosions, 
and how someone came up with the idea.

Everybody knows that the Chinese invented gunpowder, but the question is where did they get the idea for something that could explode.  One place where the idea of explosions could have come from is putting wet, green bamboo rods into the fire, bamboo comes in sealed off sections, the fire heats the bamboo with the moisture inside, the moisture heats up, turns to steam and expands and the bamboo pops.  It is not much, but it is a natural source for the idea of an explosion, which probably got alchemists searching how to replicate it.  
 Or of course, there is what we learned in elementary school, that if you don't get all the bubbles out of poverty before firing it, it explodes and wrecks everybody else's homemade ashtray or candle holder.  But that must be much later than putting bamboo on a fire.
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You mean like, "Oops," BOOM, "Bugger!".LOL
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Is anyone out there? Or were you all killed in the explosion. If you were all killed, don't bother answering.

Thank you.

Quote Have you seen my wife, Mr. Jones?Do you know what it's like on the outside?
Don't go talking too loud, you'll cause a landslide, Mr. Jones.
From "New York Mining Disaster 1925" by the Bee Gees.

 Just  a bit of light relief Frank.Wink
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"I'm not dead yet!"  "shhhhh. be vewy, vewy, qwiet, were hunting wabbits!"

You don't have to be quiet, it is just that the fourth of July is over, and dogs don't feel like they have to crawl out of their skins any more due to fireworks.  There is something called a thunder shirt, with which you kind of bundle the dog up, it hugs it and makes the dog feel (more) secure around thunder and fireworks.  They're not cheap though.
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Quote "I'm not dead yet!"  "shhhhh. be vewy, vewy, qwiet, were hunting wabbits!"

I would never have thought you capable of such humour. Good one.Clap

But getting back OP, do you think that, like a number of other scientific breaks through, it was in fact an accident?




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People must have known that bodies explode. Henry VIII 's fat ass exploded as they were lowering him into his coffin. 

Looking at old photographs from the civil war you can see that average size men start to expand because of bacteria, with no mechanism for release things just keep expanding.
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Way back when my dad was in Boy Scouts, his patrol came across a bloated dead cow, some dummy tried hitting it with an axe.  Boy, was that a mistake.  So yes, things can explode, but applying fire was obviously one of the requirements in the discovery of gun powder.  I would assume an "exploding body" to be more like a bubble popping.   More like a belloop! rather than a bang!  Maybe that is why muslims hurry to bury their dead,  The Greek, Heraclitus of Ephesus (500 BC) said that 'bodies should be thrown out sooner than dung.'
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Way back when my dad was in Boy Scouts, his patrol came across a bloated dead cow, some dummy tried hitting it with an axe.  Boy, was that a mistake.  So yes, things can explode, but applying fire was obviously one of the requirements in the discovery of gun powder.  I would assume an "exploding body" to be more like a bubble popping.   More like a belloop! rather than a bang!  Maybe that is why muslims hurry to bury their dead,  The Greek, Heraclitus of Ephesus (500 BC) said that 'bodies should be thrown out sooner than dung.'

Aha! So your father was a conspirator??Wink
 

Greek Fire perhaps? Another OOPS, BOOM BUGGER!!!Censored


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The peasants are the water in which the fish swim.  (Chairman Mao on Guerrilla Warfare).

"What is this 'wet' that I keep hearing about?"  (One fish to another).


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Methane gas is explosive. A farmer is standing by bloated cow corpse holding a torch. Cow corpse explodes and enough methane reaches the flame to cause a flaming hot splash.  I think it's plausible.
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Of course it's plausible. You obviously watch Mythbusters too.

But I don't think farmers went about looking for bloated dead animals, with lighted torches, hoping for an explosion, do you?Wink
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Well how many farmers stood in how many fields looking for a lost cow at night? Probably billions!

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I don't think it was that kind of explosion (in my dad's case).
I think it was more like hitting a balloon filled with rancid puss and other gross things, which upon being hit by an axe, "exploded" all over the on-lookers.  Did I say that teenagers sometimes do things that are really stupid (but seemed like a good idea at the time)?

"Of all the barns in all of Chicago, Bessie had to walk into mine (or was it, "into a mine?)" boom!, with apologies to Humphrey Bogart.  I think there is a Monty Python skit with exploding cows. 
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Sorry, I'm sort of locked in to  OOPS, BOOM BUGGER!!
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Who are you going to BUGGER? 

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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Who are you going to BUGGER? Sleepy

For the information of the uneducated, the word "Bugger", is common British and Australian slang used when a mishap occurs.

It can refer to a distasteful sexual act, but we don't talk like that.
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