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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 10:15
Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Awful & complicated situation in South Africa. Add to that fake news, which is rampantand most of us are baffled. 
South African Parliament Voted to take the farms of white people and not compensate them. If I'm a white farmer, it's a horrible but very clear message. I see it's affecting Australian families. 

How can they stay in South Africa now? Why do they want to? Investments and land are never coming back and it's open season on whitey, everywhere. No one will help white South Africans, I expect the world to do nothing.



WOW!! I didn't know that expropriation of land had become official government policy in South Africa.

This being the case, I see South Africa going the same way as Zimbabwe and other ex-colonies, down the drain.

And what of the white people being driven off land they have worked for several hundred years-no compensation so they'll have to cut and run, IF they can get their money out of the South African banks. I suppose that could be the next step, freeze all assets owned by white people.

I'm reminded of an expression that you'll know well, "Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do."


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 00:39
Awful & complicated situation in South Africa. Add to that fake news, which is rampantand most of us are baffled. 
South African Parliament Voted to take the farms of white people and not compensate them. If I'm a white farmer, it's a horrible but very clear message. I see it's affecting Australian families. 

How can they stay in South Africa now? Why do they want to? Investments and land are never coming back and it's open season on whitey, everywhere. No one will help white South Africans, I expect the world to do nothing.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 20:18
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Don't presume to patronise me on this issue.Angry

If you have proof that action is being taken to curb the anti-white violence in South Africa, or that white settlers, industrialists etc aren't being victimised, provide it!

Quote  But if you want more instantaneous result, I am sure you could get an airstrike, or a command raid or some such "action."  On the other hand, if you want positive, creative action, you probably should think about it, and understand the situation better. 

I'd venture to say, based on experience of your posts on a variety of topics, that you have no real knowledge of what's going on in South Africa, nor what is happening in neighbouring ex-colonies.

As is often your wont, you twist what has been written in posts, and then try to belittle the writer.

Quote Stop wringing your hands, saying "we got to do something!" and realize that people and nations are doing something.  Maybe you don't like what they're doing, but that's just instant gratification speaking for you.

Much of your post is mudslinging at me rather than addressing the post. Obviously it's beyond your capability.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 11:48
The world did stuff when Zimbabwe were persecuting the whites, boycott and so forth, it was not just fiscal mismanagement that resulted in 4 trillion dollar notes.  The world does not just stand by.  But if you want more instantaneous result, I am sure you could get an airstrike, or a command raid or some such "action."  On the other hand, if you want positive, creative action, you probably should think about it, and understand the situation better.  Putting it up here on the forum does make it public (sort of), it is a step.

Stop wringing your hands, saying "we got to do something!" and realize that people and nations are doing something.  Maybe you don't like what they're doing, but that's just instant gratification speaking for you.
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Recent media reports claim that gangs of black people in South Africa are forcing the white owners off their properties, as part of a movement to "de-white" the country. It appears that the South African government have little interest in stopping them.

If this continues, South Africa will quickly follow Zimbabwe, once a thriving prosperous country, down the financial drain.

From http://theconversation.com/zimbabwes-financial-system-is-living-on-borrowed-time-and-borrowed-money-86159
Quote The rot goes back to the early 2000’s. ZANU-PF profligacy had been fuelled by acontinuous cycle of simply printing more money, and resultant  runaway inflation. Mega-inflation meant that ordinary people lost their pensions and whatever savings they had, as the Zimbabwe dollar lost its value and people resorted to barter or the use of other currencies.

This was a period when, under Mugabe's leadership, white settlers, well established in the country and prospering were terrorised by armed black gangs and either murdered or forced to flee the country, leaving all of their possessions behind them. The locals who took over the vacated land had no idea how to run the properties, and they lay fallow.

In Zimbabwe, it isn't only the farming sector that's gone bust, eviction or murder of white people has had a detrimental effect on all of the industries.

Quote Yet ZANU-PF faced major problems. Above all, “dollarisation” meant that the cost of Zimbabwe’s exports on international markets was high. Worse, the dramatic collapse in agricultural production since the early 2000s (following the appropriation of white farms) alongside the decimation of the country’s manufacturing industries meant that there was relatively little to export anyway. Tobacco production has recovered a little, but the quality is less than it used to be, so returns are relatively less.

Meanwhile government insistence that mines should be 51% Zimbabwean owned has done nothing to entice inward investment or boost exports.

Will the world stand by and watch this happen-AGAIN?

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