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Contemporary U.S. Native music and singers

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Topic: Contemporary U.S. Native music and singers
Posted By: pinguin
Subject: Contemporary U.S. Native music and singers
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2011 at 23:56
I wish to open a topic in comtemporary U.S. Native music. The reason? I would like to know more about it, and I would like to hear your suggestion.

Let's start with Jana Mashonee, to give the mood of the thread.







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Posted By: drgonzaga
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 00:26
Can the spam, Pinguin, that piece is actually an insult to the peoples of the Southwest and more parody than substance. You might as well have brought up Gloria Estefan and her cavort through the Andes of a few years back. At least Miss Mashonee is more a realist than you--read it and weep:
 
http://indianvillagemall.com/aboutjanamashonee.html - http://indianvillagemall.com/aboutjanamashonee.html
 
Here take your pick and find the authentic within the merchandizing...
 
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/native-american-spiritual-music-sacred-spirit-chants-and/6f85f63a43a43f29d6e16f85f63a43a43f29d6e1-406845326265?q=native%20american%20music - http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/native-american-spiritual-music-sacred-spirit-chants-and/6f85f63a43a43f29d6e16f85f63a43a43f29d6e1-406845326265?q=native%20american%20music


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Honi soit qui mal y pense


Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 00:50
Jane Mashonee visiting the Navajo.



And at the National Aboriginal Achievement Awards




Posted By: drgonzaga
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 02:43
If people do not grasp the ironical in all of this blather, including labels that when placed in the context of the English language become horrific double entendres as a consequence of PCism, then let the humour and entertainment continue.
 
Exempli Gratia:
 
National Aboriginal Achievement Awards
Black Entertainment Television
Latin Grammy
 
The invidious in all of these hijinx is the fact that what is presented has nothing at all to do with original cultural settings. Further, with respect to music, the sounds are false in terms of the original context.
 
The drums found here--
 
http://www.native-languages.org/drums.htm - http://www.native-languages.org/drums.htm
 
--are totally different instrumentalities than all of these manufactured stage settings more fitting for MTV than the realities of music in the various cultures these merchandizers are insulting.
 
The horrible truth behind all of these faux tableaux within the context of All Empires is that they are both ahistorical and unhistorical and they most certainly do not consider the music within their proper settings. They are not only insults to true traditions but portray music as entertainment rather than a vital projection of cultural and social reasonings.


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Honi soit qui mal y pense


Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 12:16
Drgonzaga:
What are you talking about. I am getting worried about your comprehension skills, actually.
How come you can't understand a title: "Contemporary". How come it is so difficult for you to get anything.
Do you think Japanese can't play Flamenco? How come Native Americans should only produce theirs ancient traditional music? Why they shouldn't evolve into more contemporary fusion music? If Lorena Mckennit could do that with Celtic music, why other natives wouldn't attemp the same?

Anyways, I hope you are single, because otherwise... poor woman! Confused

From Argentina, Beatriz Pichi Malen made this modernize traditional native song:






Posted By: drgonzaga
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 12:48
ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh the minute that concertina started to bellow! The Amerind as an habitue of Porteno tango bars...well it's far more respectful than scantily clad maidens doing Michael Jacksonesque gyrations! Amerind music in its natural setting is set to the rhythms of meaning within specific contexts pertinent to the culture and having these reformatted as entertainment is vulgar to say the least. It merits the same contempt that greeted Leonard Bernstein and his Mass back in the early '70s.
 
It is because I appreciate the beauty of the originals that I hold contempt for these merchandizing ventures seeking to make a buck by subverting heritage. Funny you of all people do not understand what is fundamentally wrong with these pastiches.


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Honi soit qui mal y pense


Posted By: whalebreath
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 13:26



Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 13:28
@Drgonzaga:

We aren't talking here about Amerindian traditional music and styles.
We are talking about CONTEMPORARY music produced by Amerindians.

That's not hard to understand.

You keep judging things in the air and attacking Straw Men, as your comments show ("merchandizing ventures", for example).





Posted By: whalebreath
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 13:28



Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 13:29
Originally posted by whalebreath whalebreath wrote:




Thanks Whalebreath! That's a contribution.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 15:41
Redbone, huh? Well that certainly brought back memories of my post-cloth diapers, but yet pre-pre-school days!



The band Redbone, was born in a completely different era, their band's name a joking reference to a Cajun term for mixed race people, or half-breed(s) as they were called in the days before political correctness.







Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 22:36
Interesting. I had heared these guys but I didn't known there was a native american link to them, and less they were called "Redbone"




Posted By: pinguin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 22:50
Indigenous



Buffy Sainte Marie



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 16:46
Every contemporary art start from a contemporary art image to the dance and music are my favorite. I love to listen the contemporary music. A number of things I got to see here.



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