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    Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 21:03
During the era of Persian empire building or otherwise, were there any substantial movements of Persians to establish colonies into the newly acquired lands? if so, where?

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Which Persian empire are you speaking of?
 
By the name, I'd assume it would be the thing I know of as New Persia (stupid outdated maps from where I've picked up things) and which would be (after checking Wikipedia) the Persia under Qajar dynasty.
 
If you are speaking of the Achaemenid Persia, then the answer will be no though. They didn't attempt to colonize new areas - the areas remained under the population which had been there before and the cultural differences were allowed to exist.
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If you mean outside of ME then rarely.
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Parthians and Sassanids had coastal trade outposts in SE Asia as far as Sumatra AFAIK.
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I read about a southern Chinese port which was dominated by a Persian/Arab merchants society then around 8 or 9 century a Chinese rebel group (or something like that) attacked the city and murdered everyone and took the city. 
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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

I read about a southern Chinese port which was dominated by a Persian/Arab merchants society then around 8 or 9 century a Chinese rebel group (or something like that) attacked the city and murdered everyone and took the city. 


That time-frame makes sense. As I recall, that would be around the time that the Nestorian missionaries were, to a degree, suppressed. Zagros or someone who knows more than I can fill in the blanks, but as I recall there was a shift in dynasties; the Tang (?) favoured externs, while the dynasty that followed them returned to a more traditional, xenophobic policy.

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Take a look at this links, it may give you a brief view about the issue.

Cultural and cosmological impact of Iranian civilization in Vietnam and peninsular area of south east Asia
http://www.iranchamber.com/culture/articles/iranian_cultural_impact_southeastasia.php

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http://books.google.com/books?id=S5q7qxi5LBgC&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=persian+merchant+in+southern+china&source=bl&ots=tm2HBUO98C&sig=enVhpqY1TXwsiHOxB5P9EtLRqdE&hl=en&ei=x5ZvSpSZDpTGMNb6yeAI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Historical Sketch of the Hui Muslims of China


http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/study/islam/historical_interaction/overviews/history_hui_muslims_china.html

I don't know how accurate is this one but you can take a look.

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Originally posted by Suren Suren wrote:

I read about a southern Chinese port which was dominated by a Persian/Arab merchants society then around 8 or 9 century a Chinese rebel group (or something like that) attacked the city and murdered everyone and took the city. 

Guangzhou in 878.
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