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"responsible" is not the word I would use, is he feeding the fire or taking away the oxygen for it?  and I am not certain that he is feeding the fire, because I don't have a detached perspective.  I am just wondering if my perception is accurate, that big shootings are more frequent in his first year?

The spotlight on Black Lives Matters, seems to have changed.  Are young blacks butting heads less with the police?  Or are we just not hearing about it as much?  I tend to think Eric Holder's investigations tended to add oxygen to those fires.  Now we have a different regime, that is more friendly to law enforcement.
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Quote Now we have a different regime, that is more friendly to law enforcement.

Really? And how about the coloured population, are they more friendly?

And the proportion of Americans who have African antecedents is?
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1st statement, we have a different (a new) regime.
that regime ran on being friendly to law enforcement, border patrol, local sheriffs from Arizona who get pardoned. police officers.  In other words, law enforcement officers who have nothing to do with Trump malfeasance.  FBI not included.
that regime has been friendly to law enforcement, as they said they would.

We generally don't talk about "colored" population, unless we are waxing poetic like Jesse Jackson and his rainbow coalition.  Even then, different minorities have different levels of outrageous indignation points,  The best is to be a black lesbian woman or transgender.  (I, Rigoberta Menchu) They can speak with the greatest authority about how authentic is their outrage against, 'the man,' typified as dead white males.
Listening to them, you would think that most poverty in America is black and urban, but the truth is that most poverty in America is white and rural.  But the self-righteous indignation of the neoMarxists these days, has nothing to do with the working class, and a lot to do with gender and racial identity.  University radicals these days don't care anything about workers any more.  
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote <span style=": rgb231, 228, 216;">Now we have a different regime, that is more friendly to law enforcement.
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<span style=": rgb231, 228, 216;">Really? And how about the coloured population, are they more friendly?</span>
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<span style=": rgb231, 228, 216;">And the proportion of Americans who have African antecedents is?</span>



Many BLM outlets have regrouped. They have been exposed with no response for the question "how are you being victimized?"

If BLM had actual objectives other than getting democrats elected, they would talk with Trump. Many groups representing the interests of African Americans have met with Trump and have lots of good things to say, look at employment rates it's the best US has done in 20 years.
You want to see a list of black voters/commitees who work with Trump? They won't tell you about it on CNN. They want to divide people by race, sex, religion and politics.



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Why are you so obsessed by CNN?

Did you realise that there are many more US news outlets?Wink
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Why are you so obsessed by CNN?

Did you realise that there are many more US news outlets?Wink

Yes, lets overlook any good news and get back to CNN. I assume you are not interested in the black groups who are happy to be having a president pay attention. 

Of course I sample CNN talking heads. There are a couple of conservative viewpoints mostly the news is influenced by hollywood, social media and virtue signaling. I used to think MSNBC was the worst but CNN has taken the lead. MSNBC is still more ridiculous but CNN is actively supporting the RESIST MOVEMENT, which sounds like Bill Clinton in some recent interviews LOL. 

 
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

This was posted by Northman several years ago-just a bit of fun-not to be taken too seriously.

Quote <span style=": rgb231, 228, 216;">Just for fun - and afterthought...  </span>Smile<br style=": rgb231, 228, 216;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpCUAK4ypA



You might have a laugh or two over this.


The problem is, this will be taken seriously, and most especially by those tired of the decades long one sided ridicule and mockery their beliefs are turned into on television shows.

Trump didn't appear out of a vacuum. And yet people are still perplexed how anyone could vote or him? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:


This after playing footsy with the NRA recently.


By george! I think Trump is getting the hang of being a politician! Should we be scared or relieved. The answer lies within the eye of the beholder.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Why are you so obsessed by CNN?

Did you realise that there are many more US news outlets?Wink


Yes, lets overlook any good news and get back to CNN. I assume you are not interested in the black groups who are happy to be having a president pay attention. 

Of course I sample CNN talking heads. There are a couple of conservative viewpoints mostly the news is influenced by hollywood, social media and virtue signaling. I used to think MSNBC was the worst but CNN has taken the lead. MSNBC is still more ridiculous but CNN is actively supporting the RESIST MOVEMENT, which sounds like Bill Clinton in some recent interviews LOL. 

 


The Clinton News Network.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Why are you so obsessed by CNN?

Did you realise that there are many more US news outlets?Wink


Yes, lets overlook any good news and get back to CNN. I assume you are not interested in the black groups who are happy to be having a president pay attention. 

Of course I sample CNN talking heads. There are a couple of conservative viewpoints mostly the news is influenced by hollywood, social media and virtue signaling. I used to think MSNBC was the worst but CNN has taken the lead. MSNBC is still more ridiculous but CNN is actively supporting the RESIST MOVEMENT, which sounds like Bill Clinton in some recent interviews LOL. 

 


The Clinton News Network.
Righto- when they paid the bills! Now the Clintons are being shuffled off stage Bill Clinton in pretty hot water I guess but who cares. He's pretty out of touch, not convincing anyone that when HE did IT things were DIFFERENT.
I do agree that the "me too" thing is nonsense. Think of all the bad actors who'll never get their start without the casting couch!
Notice how many female teachers were outed this week for having sex with teen male students? 
I counted 3.
Won't be long before a well known woman turns out to be using people for sex. Just the real world is all.
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Guns? GUNS? We were talking about GUNS?
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:


Notice how many female teachers were outed this week for having sex with teen male students? 
I counted 3.
Won't be long before a well known woman turns out to be using people for sex. Just the real world is all.


Yes, this is about guns. But a quick note, female teachers being sex predators is a far worse phenomenon then the media realizes:

http://www.lawfirms.com/female-teacher-sex-crime-offenders-and-scandals.htmlList of Female Sex Predators

https://canadiancrc.com/FEMALE_TEACHER_SEX_OFFENDERS-SEXUAL_ASSAULT_Female_Sexual_Predators-RAPE_MALES.aspx:More here
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Guns? GUNS? We were talking about GUNS?

Yes but it should be noted that propaganda morphs into "Facts"  through media distortion. Examples in media mania, when relevant reveal dubious evidence, anonymous sources or pure fantasy. Or the shameless virtue signaling of Matt Lauer. Remember him?

It's all distortion including many so called facts about gun violence, crime rates and what's driving crime.

The conditions at schools have something to do with the shootings. We have Snark, humiliation by public media and an atmosphere where adult women actually are up for sex with 15 year old boys. This is an example of divisive media, if covered at all it's farcical. 
Only men, probably White Men are abusing power for personal gratification. Lüge!


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Matt Lauer, no, I had to Google him to find out who he is and what he is.

Quote It's all distortion including many so called facts about gun violence, crime rates and what's driving crime.

Old journalism saying, "Never let the facts stand in the way of a good story'" and in some cases, I agree with you here.

What's Lüge!, isn't it a Winter Olympics sport?

As for the gun problem, I suppose a POTUS many years ago would have done something about it if he thought it would ever be a problem. Hindsight is a wonderful thing to have.


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Quote What's Lüge!, isn't it a Winter Olympics sport?


haha, that's LIES! in German. German have better words for bad behavior

Quote As for the gun problem, I suppose a POTUS many years ago would have done something about it if he thought it would ever be a problem. Hindsight is a wonderful thing to have.


I don't know if you are following social media, if you were there is no chance that you would want your kids or grandkids to be subjected to it, I suggest social media is driving mass shootings.
Every school has its own online community boards and even as they are supposedly "monitored" I tell you kids are stabbing at each other through the medium.
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I don't subscribe to any of the so-called social media formats.

If I want to communicate with someone, I use my phone or at least email.

I have seen some of the content of one or two, and all I saw was a load of drivel.
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I tend to think its gigo, garbage in, garbage out.
but I am not on Facebook or twitter, so I don't really know.
youtube is an interesting phenomenon, and so are forums,
at least to me.

Socrates talks about if you go to the market and get some food, if when you get home, you discover it is bad you can dump it out.  The same is not true for your mind.  If you come home with a bad idea, it is going to stick with you, even if you don't want it any more.  You can't throw it out, as if it is bad stew.  But, people are willing to take just about anything in mind.

obtw, I used to carry pocketknives when I was in elementary through college, big folding knives, switch blades, so forth, including to school.  I don't like the way they made me think.  So, I generally don't carry a knife these days, except a little pen knife in the car, to poke through the wrapper on boxes of cookies.  Never used a knife as a weapon, (except a folding knife on my fingers, whoops!), still don't like the way it makes me think.

I think that many countries that rely on the "Pax Americana," rely on the United States to have that capacity both in the terms of military power, and the psychology that goes with it.


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