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    Posted: 30 May 2020 at 17:10
There is a well known story about Buddha, who was once approached by his disciples, who asked him if there is any God. Buddha told them the story of an elephant and blind men, each of whom was touching a certain part of elephant's body and shared his experience with the rest. One of them thought that elephant was like a snake because he touched elephant's trunk, the other touched elephant's tusks and thought of elephant as a spear

The story was supposed to demonstrate that the concept of God is incomprehensible, therefore Buddhism is often regarded as an agnostic religion (not atheistic though).

Now I've come across the Golden Light Sutra, the origin of which is ascribed to Buddha too.
I was surprised that it mentions a few Hindu deities, incl. goddess Shri, Dridha, Sarasvati.

So if Buddha was agnostic, then how comes he would mention or think about the deities? Smile 

Edited by Novosedoff - 22 Jun 2020 at 02:58
I teach history to children and I am proud that they leave my classes permeated with sh*t and hatred to meet the real world..
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Upanishads of the archaic Hindus was the world history of Guatama Buddha and his people. And all of their story is a repetition of the zodiac coming into being as was the archaic Egyptians' history. 

The deities of the Upanishads have counterparts in Sumerian, Egyptian and Greek mystery wisdom. There are parallels to be found in the bible also, ex. the god Rama of Hindu is Idris to Islam and Abraham to Christianity.

The deities represent the forces of nature, creation and the solar system. This is the external thinking that becomes internal exploration with the Aesthetics who predate Buddha, they practiced sensory deprivation in many forms. 

Guatama is said to have overcome every longing of the senses and every fear that humans experience under the Bodhi Tree.
He has the revelation of the "Thousand Petal Lotus" what every Buddhist understands to be a pinnacle of Awareness. The revelation was that we are a web of 'being' All in the One, or One in the Many as you like. 
In that ecstatic state he sees mandalas and the gift of the thousand petal lotus appearing at the Crown of the head- a rare esoteric morsel I impart to you now- the visit and pollination of the lotus by a bee.Smile

When alchemy escaped Byzantium during the fall of Constantinople is said that the Emerald Tablet used by Hermes Trismegistus himself was smuggled into Europe. The religions of the Cathars and  Rosicrucians were most certainly influenced by alchemy if not the Emerald Tablet itself, these were some of the oldest ideas known to man. 

Still round the corner there may wait, a new road or a secret gate. (J. R. R. Tolkien)
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According to Greek Mythos, Athena sprang fully formed from the head of Zeus, but most of religion is the production (or seduction??) of other earlier religions.  If you look at Japanese Buddhism, in some areas you have statues of gods and demons, I assume the same for Tibetan and some forms of Chinese Buddhism.  There is a syncretic element.  Some people would have you believe that this undermines the purity of religions, I prefer to think differently, that we all are seeing the same thing, albeit through the glass dimly.  There are many paths up the mountain of enlightenment, but I would also say that to start one and then go back and start another, then another, is not beneficial.  imo.
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