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    Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 13:20
Several youtube angles of the Beirut Blast 8/4/2020
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Wow. Seems a huge blast. I think I'd cr*p my panties if I were there. What a coincidence a few cameramen were pointing right towards the place of explosion from different angles but at the same time... Smile
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Glad you appreciate the coincidence, also Israel had mine fields that went BOOM!
The last video by civilian of Lebanon seems like a reasonable explanation. Lebanon gov would not deal with the ammonium nitrate since 2013 just sitting at the dock waiting for disaster. 

The minefields were supposedly cleared, but signs were still posted and everyone avoided them, so Israel checks off one sticking point with Arabs.


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eh by this gallows You can see the colored revolution schema again in Lebanon, one of the Gean Shаrр street revolution tactics [1] as such it was used even in Serbia recently by the Canvas local agitprop group [1][1] simply the jasmin revolutions forwarded after the isis-proxy-war debacle in Syria [2][2] but here the western propaganda cannot remove Hezbollah with ease, and only is opening new potential for eventual ww3 trigger in time, coz Syria the no-fly zone didnt become reality, western balkans for now is closed, korean peninsula too, so its smelling to me that as things are arranged euroatlantic determinists from the shadow are trying to put ready pawn that would be used as excuse for rolling an ww3!? I know this is too farfetched geopolitical perspective, but there is no other explanation except if Jerusalem did this on its own hand, compacting the middle east on other hand as one Caliphate so it could be used as ground force while west is attacking by air the eastern empires is dead strategy for now, tho if it have that earlier as strategy why to wonder that they not playing stil on this card, its almost like reality show and more and more empathy is evaporating in humanity while is just following these cctv shots as spectators, almost there is no condolence for the victims just stif response like wow, as we are witnessing basketball stunt, is it possible someone to play on this card too, and by more and more indifference becoming norm we as people to loos Gods Mercy so some eugenic beasts can engage their nwo project at last, I know this sounds funny, but if there is no cymatic calmness and solitude in the noosphere, we alone as humans can trigger great evil among ourselves, stil its the Grace Of God that is holding humanity together and with little effort of OLogos'ing through Good Attitude Vibes and Prayer (something that earlier in the aegean civilizations from there borrowed by the roma its was called Good Will Concept i.e. Bona Fides) we can at least postpone the inevitable outcome for our greedy way of life nowadays! 

I am just wondering if this cargo was seized by accident or it was Hezbo spin to get it like that!?   


who can tell on the other hand that this really is not Hezbo fault, its too ridiculous to seize such amount from pirate ship and stack it in the central port of the city, maybe they didnt expect that moSad will attacks that location, but having in mind what kind of sort attacks in past were stated by they neighbor, they should expected this too, maybe they did, maybe they wanted to speed up the chinese investment in the port, or eventually israelis to hold it back, tho that statement in the above centered text that this is usA spin I think even it is possible would not anyhow stopped the chinese expansion in the Mediterranean Sea ... 

 

this is by my opinion just way to rollover new cue, in same time chance for new destabilizing zone in Middle East, is it has potential for ww3 clash among Russia and usA, I hope not, it depends how Hezbollah will react and in that what kind of occupy tactics will use moSad, but also it depends when all that will happen! what to say expect Let God Be Our Shepard And Pull Us Of this valley of darkness, tho as I said We also must ask for this ...

 



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Hi Pelagon
US definitely wants China put down we pretty much hate their chi coms asses these days and they deserve it, as US surely deserves hate for actions our government have taken on behalf of nwo cabal.

Good point here with Lebanon and Iran is that China as atheists would be cannibalizing Muslims. They hate spirituality and have devised many ways of destroying human spiritual experience including a process to calcify the Pineal Gland.


As you say it's more than a regional problem with China they are world wide and looking to seize power everywhere. The presence of ammonium nitrate stored improperly was well known to citizens of Beirut, they objected to it knowing the potential for a great disaster was a distinct possibility. The local people blame their government I don't blame them, it was a known threat but then nwo maniacs never look to preserve lives. Something had to ignite the explosion and clearly the 'cause' was part of the presentation, we can see mini blasts at the 'fireworks factory' wtf? 


Ammonium nitrate is not classified as an explosive when it is stored properly in volumes less than one cubic metre. However, if stored in larger volumes and masses, it can reach critical mass and exhibit explosive properties.

Deterioration of improperly stored ammonium nitrate due to moisture absorption over time results in a condensed mass that does not allow the gaseous products to escape, resulting in confinement and a massive explosive potential. The energy of the explosion observed in Beirut is indicative of a dense solid, not a granular mass of ammonium nitrate, due to improper long-term storage in humid conditions.

Most countries have strict statutes and regulations governing the manufacturing, storage and transportation of ammonium nitrate, such as Canada’s Explosives Regulations (Part 20), US-EPA 550-F and the EU Seveso Directive. The reported conditions of the ammonium nitrate storage in Beirut would have violated the aforementioned regulations.

This link for Al Aribya won't work but it might help find the article if you want to see this source.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/08/12/Hezbollah-was-taking-Beirut-ammonium-nitrate-to-produce-weapons-Source

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/08/12/Hezbollah-was-taking-Beirut-ammonium-nitrate-to-produce-weapons-Source

In the wake of the disaster, observers have questioned why such vast quantities of highly explosive material was left in Beirut’s port, so close to the densely populated city center.

According a former high security source who spoke to Al Arabiya English on condition of anonymity, the ammonium nitrate remained at the port for years because “it was being siphoned off for military purposes by a third party.”

This statement was also later confirmed by a source close to Hezbollah commanders who specified that the product was being used for missiles and rockets war heads, which were sent by Iran to Lebanon and assembled locally in the Hermel Region by Hezbollah. Back in 2017, the French Intelligence Online magazine had already reported that Hezbollah was constructing two underground facilities in Lebanon for manufacturing missiles.



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its obvious that such amount of chemicals should not be stored near residential areas, but when its done its obvious someone was using civilians as live shield, in my opinion Lebanon was target and is practice that moSad is using it regularly in Palestine, tho it is more obvious that it was used as bate also except way to insure that cargo to stay as much as possible intact, but with that gallow immediately on the streets its clear to me that this is planned action either by the jewish agitprop I want say Israeli coz it would mean that the country is acting as whole, coz if it was they'll wont hide such operation, but is maybe some extreme wing of moSad that is aligned with the ea-deepstate cohorts who are using the same tactics as before the arrival of Trump who has direct approach imposing instant resolving of conflict situation, he wouldnt make clear way for the chinese expansionism for whom in this way there is more open room to act or to withdraw, yet from moSad standpoint erasing this kind of warehouse is more easy now than if there were chinese companies around!
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It is not like a huge amount of ammonium nitrate has ever blown up in a harbor before.  Oh, wait, Galveston.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

It is not like a huge amount of ammonium nitrate has ever blown up in a harbor before.  Oh, wait, Galveston.
Scientific American says fire is an unlikely trigger. A theory was floated on Twitter that a drone could have been used, why not right? 
Wiki list here of explosions involving- AN
When heated, ammonium nitrate decomposes non-explosively into gases of oxygennitrogen, and water vapor[1]

While we don’t know for sure what caused the explosion in Beirut, footage of the incident indicates it may have been set off by a fire – visible in a section of the city’s port area before the explosion happened.

It’s relatively difficult for a fire to trigger an ammonium nitrate explosion. The fire would need to be sustained and confined within the same area as the ammonium nitrate prills.

Also, the prills themselves are not fuel for the fire, so they would need to be contaminated with, or packaged in, some other combustible material.

In Beirut, it has been reported 2,700 tonnes of ammonium nitrate were stored in a warehouse for six years without proper safety controls.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-ammonium-nitrate-the-chemical-that-exploded-in-beirut/

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Why do you think the blast may have something to do with recent diplomatic treaty between Israel and UAE?  
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also DONT forget Beirut i.e. Hezbollah three years ago was target of isis [1] and this makes the things even more complicated, but this kind of diversion if that was the case could not be executed without leaving public message!  here is a link were is insinuated that the neocons and BenjaminN are the main culprits behind this explosion, but without steady proofs it is falling in the conspi-bag, coz if this was attack with thermonuclear bomb there would be vacuum suction plus airstrike will be imminent, yet there could be speculated about DEW direct energy weapon but such would be effective if there is big terahertz strike which would eventually cause some massive short-circuit fire, something that is hardly imaginable,  but lets say if this was really some deepstate usA diversion maybe this was done with some scalar vlf-weapon tho they are noticeably atmospherically as unbearable hot air above the targeted area coz the plasma heating in the sky , but what if this was controlled experiment of beamed vector tunneling laser [1] if its so its message to Hezbollah to be cautious what is planning ahead, but in such case are those innocent casualties of moSad anti-terrorist war justified by all means , from perspective of military action probably calculation statistically compared to plane crash, what knowing the past confrontation is prettymuch possible when higher strategic cause as at stake! I'll conclude if this Tragedy is intentionally done and from whatever side was orchestrated!, its possible to be executed even without any special weapons, maybe with fire-sabotage if its true that Lebanon is massively corrupted coz the current economic stagnation in the country!


accident or sabotage, its fact that there is big room  for  plausible theory that  BenjaminN was acting in such manner on behalf of his corruption trial!? someone who kills palestian civilians by directive every week its not too unbelievable to order this kind of attack, but again without any substantial proofs its like saying Trump orchestrated the corona-pandemics coz he is President of usA, wrong approach that will not resolve either the pandemic paranoia nor will help those laying in hospital beds, only fueling frustrations that will eventually built up confusion if not lead to retaliation only backed by blind anger! lets see what will come out from the investigation!
  


The mechanism of the spontaneous detonation of ammonium nitrate in reactive grounds ~ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213343717306425



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Originally posted by Novosedoff Novosedoff wrote:

Why do you think the blast may have something to do with recent diplomatic treaty between Israel and UAE?  

At this point it reminds me of what you have said Novosedoff.
Since 'facts' are are dubious then timing is everything it can't be a coincidence that this huge explosion occurs within 24 hours of press release regarding treaty. 

Considering the way Lebanon's political class is totally hated by the people and years of demonstrations demanding basic services like garbage removal, result in no action, makes me think it's an inside job. Government reps always have money to make and past crimes to cover up and I don't know the relationships in the dynamic admittedly, for now it's just a hunch to me that this was a local operation.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by Novosedoff Novosedoff wrote:

Why do you think the blast may have something to do with recent diplomatic treaty between Israel and UAE?  

At this point it reminds me of what you have said Novosedoff.
Since 'facts' are are dubious then timing is everything it can't be a coincidence that this huge explosion occurs within 24 hours of press release regarding treaty. 


Well, if someone's wife had given a birth within the same 24 hours, that doesn't make her an accomplice of the crime Smile There has to be a logical connection between 2 facts, otherwise we cannot regard them as related. UAE seem to have nothing common to do with Lebanon either


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one can narrow the assumptions on terrorist attack reason and economic motives, could be said that is inside job only if this catastrophe would speed up the chinese investing in the port, tho that can be obstructed in different ways and its risk coz the any chinese investment surely will be prolonged if it was on its way earlier ... but even without such assumption there is multibenefit outcome for few players when its in stake the lebanons TEU growth which for some is treat for some opportunity, altho think Hezbollah would need to agree with whatever investment outcome will take place!


we can have clear picture if we compare year by year the Beirut Port TEU growth and its perspectives if chines would have invested!
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Good article from AJ. The author was in Beirut, experienced the blast and points out how lack of services and multiple factions within Lebanon create instability often leading to fires and explosions. Then of course he makes the point about  intelligence agencies from any number of countries would  be expected to know about the ammonium nitrate and the complaints made to authorities including one by an American contractor.

The direct connection is not known at this point might never known so not going to accept media explanations that are regurgitated and recycled by lazy MSM hacks.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/learned-beirut-explosion-200817115120442.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/learned-beirut-explosion-200817115120442.html

And while many are happy to pounce on local backwardness as the essential cause, they often neglect the fact that this paralysis is also a direct consequence of global politics. Local factions active in the country all draw their support from foreign allies. Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United States, Syria, France, and Israel have all supported, armed or bankrolled one militia or faction, and this has gone on for decades, transforming the country into a chess board of cold wars, plots and mysterious explosions.

Considering the endlessly fragmented power dynamics, and the consequent governmental dysfunction, it is not difficult to understand how all types of accidents can and do happen regularly in Lebanon. 

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Video at link

Lebanon judge orders more arrests over Beirut explosion

A total of 25 people are facing charges over the August 4 blast that killed more than 200 people, but many are calling for more accountability.

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Look up the Lebanese government, from what I understand the Christians are in charge of the Presidency, the muslims in charge of the Prime Minister, and the druze in charge of the parliament, and it was set up that way.

They probably can roughly tell how much Ammonium Nitrate was there from the size of the explosion.  Ammonium Nitrate is fairly well understood as an explosive, so they probably have a good idea of what went wrong.  Storing that much meant that it was probably not a matter of if, but a matter of when.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/confirmed-explosion-beirut-connected-hezbollah-stockpile-ammonium-nitrate-delivered-iran/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons



NEW REPORT: Explosion in Beirut Connected to Hezbollah Stockpile of Ammonium Nitrate Delivered by Iran

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Although it is not as exciting, I believe that it was a mass of an unregulated substance, ammonium nitrate fertilizer, that came in on a Russian 'tramp' freighter going to Somalia, that came into Beirut under repairs, and was abandoned by its owners when repairs and harbor fees got too expensive.

It seems like it is an industrial accident, and I do hope it is an industrial accident, because if it was it can be prevented in the future.  If it is Hezbollah, well there is no possible way of accounting there.

Of course, it is also used as an explosive, and is used in IEDs.  I am sure that the Israelis would know if Hezbollah was using ammonium nitrate in their rockets.  But, even if they were, it is not like Hezbollah cannot get it on the open market, as long as they are 'polite' about how they do it.  But, I also imagine that more powerful stuff is available to them from Syria and Iran.
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