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    Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 04:43
What would have been the world without the atomic bomb? I bet, there would have been a third and a fourth world wars already, and we may be heading to the fifth.

Human societies were driven by war up to very recent times, and governments could easily send large mass of people to die just for the miserable interests of rulers. I believe atomic bomb was the main factor that contribute to the relatively peaceful world of today. Yes, there is still war, but most of it are localized imperialistic attacks on underdeveloped countries, and revolutions in miserable places, rather than full scale technological wars that devastate whole continents.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

What would have been the world without the atomic bomb? I bet, there would have been a third and a fourth world wars already, and we may be heading to the fifth.

Human societies were driven by war up to very recent times, and governments could easily send large mass of people to die just for the miserable interests of rulers. I believe atomic bomb was the main factor that contribute to the relatively peaceful world of today. Yes, there is still war, but most of it are localized imperialistic attacks on underdeveloped countries, and revolutions in miserable places, rather than full scale technological wars that devastate whole continents.



There has been more thasnone single factor here, I think.
One is the more Means of communication, another is that the relative power, and borders, of different countries and Groups has not been much disputed for some decades.Then there is the spread of international, transnational and supranaational institutions, and negative attitude towards war among many peoples after the last World war. Then there is a point of view democratic countries don´t fight each others, though I am not so sure. what is a "pure democratic country" anyway? Perhaps it is also more safe not to have the main centres of power as very close neighbours, like in 1913/14, were rivalling Great powers were located on a relatively small part of the planet - Europe.
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Yes. The media has a lot of influence in the change of attitude toward war. Just compare the war described as a glorious activity in classical paintings, like this.



With the illustration of an atomic war in The Day After.




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I agree Penguin. The nuclear weapons have been the primary contributor in, not eliminating war, but keeping them small scale. Major front on conflicts between nuclear powers have been completely avoided, instead, proxy wars and skirmishes have been the major form of physical conflict.

How much has communication contributed? Some certainly, intertwined economies I think have certainly helped. The 'powers at be' can no longer earn a profit from a major conflict.
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Don´t forget that in large parts of the World there has been a decline in "smaller" wars (not World wars/continenta wars).
This decline can be traced far more to the past than the end of the "World war era"(1914-45).
I have heard historians claim that in europe for instance, a trend toward a lesser violent society, both internally and externally, can be traced back centuries, though I admit this at first sight may go against the impression from the two World wars. Here we should not forget that relative to smaller populations ancient wars could cost the lives of relative high proportions of populations, and if they were often of a lesser scale, then their frequency could be much higher than in the last two centuries(I think one source for this point of view is a certain Stephen Pinker, though I know very Little about him).
more communication also Means much more than more "economic ties".
It is hard to avoid the idea it also has the effect of more familiarity with "way of thinking" or "way of life" of people, and better understanding of intentions, and immediate informations about activies, that can lead to increased thrust in many cases.
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