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    Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 12:49
So I might have missed it, but I didn't see a thread from either Byzantine Emperor or Justinian on this, so it looks like it's up to me -- your reservist baseball fan. So let us discuss the great American past-time as it relates to the present time. Smile

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So, without a doubt, the most controversial thing that has happened recently has to be the blown call by umpire Jim Joyce that denied Detroit's Armando Galarraga a perfect game (the rarest achievement in sports, unless my memory is playing me falsely). Anyway, here is the story, and there is a link to the video in this article:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37479309/ns/sports-baseball/

So after watching the replay, of course I, with everyone else -- including the extremely repentant umpire -- see that the guy was out. That said, slow motion adds a whole lot of certainty that was not available in the heat of the moment. Furthermore, when I viewed the initial real-time version, I thought the guy was safe too, and couldn't see what the upset was about. Now of course the umpire had a completely different angle than I did, so the comparison is not a solid one. Still, it does lend credence to the fact that the whole matter is a great deal less cut-and-dry than the extremely slow-motion replay -- which all the armchair umps are using -- would seem to indicate. The bottom line, I feel, is that the guy who made the call made it with the best information available and in the best and most professional way that he could. As his interview after the game indicates, even he acknowledges that he made a mistake, and is deeply repentant -- which I find honorable and touching, but not required. I really think everyone needs to lay off Jim Joyce. Of course he blew the call; he admitted he blew the call after the slow motion replay. That said, how many of the armchair blowhards screaming for his head right now would have made the call right based on the footage and the handicap of only being able to see it once. And keep in mind that giving the call to Galarraga simply because he was on the verge of a perfect game would be just as wrong -- and silly -- as denying it for the same reason. Anyway, I'd be interested to see some responses. I think Jim Joyce is a quality umpire who is getting an extremely unfair rap right now for a call that any of us might have made were we put in the same situation.

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Wow, this is just really sad. One can -- I suppose -- rationalize this incident as just "part of the game," and, in a way, I suppose it is.
 
Let me say, I think Jim Joyce is a good umpire; and he didn't need to apologize for the blown call. Think about it, would Joe West have apologized? I think not. Having said all that, he did blow the call; and while sympathy can be applied here in this case, responsiblity should not be "waved off."
 
I've been a baseball fan since birth, and any fan can notice that the umpire work lately has surely suffered. It's a sad situation.....a perfect game. Nobody's sleeping well tonight. But, baseball being the sport it is, the Tigers (and Galarraga specifically) have to shake it off and move on. That's the good thing about baseball, it's about what team is able to move ahead and make the adjustments.
 
On another note, Ken Griffey Jr. retired today. I really do think, had he not suffered from injuries, he would be the reigning all-time homerun leader. Sad day for baseball all around.
 
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Haven't caught much of it with the Champion's League and the NBA finals ... and the Cubs sucking more than usual.
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I feel your pain, es_bih. My Suns just got bounced by the Lakers and my D-backs are on a 10-game skid with no hope of finding a way to get out of it! Tough to win when you don't have much of a bullpen. It's tough on any team when you lose 4 straight games by walk-off, one by balk, no less! And to top things off for me, my Steelers will be without Ben for possibly 6 games (I happen to agree with the suspension, though).
 
This whole blown call issue is one that needs to seriously be looked at by the MLB. I feel terrible for all involved. I feel bad for Jim Joyce, I feel bad for the Detroit Tigers (defense was essential, as always; Galarrage only had 3 strikeouts), and especially Galarraga himself. Everybody knows that the Tigers were perfect that day. I think the one thing that we can take away from this is that everybody involved showed tremendous class. Really, Jim Joyce was a class act, Jim Leyland was a class act, and, above all, enough can't be said for the way Armando Galarrage handled this situation. Not many people would have handled it so well; the guy really has shown baseball fans worldwide how to play the game with class.
 
The play probably won't be overruled, and I don't think it should. It's all in all a pretty sad affair.
 
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Haven't caught much of it with the Champion's League and the NBA finals ... and the Cubs sucking more than usual.

Don't cry lil Cubbie, there's always next century Wink LOL
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Thanks for starting the thread, Akolouthos! Big smile
 
Yeah, the botched call on the Galarraga perfect game was awful.  There was no reason why Joyce should have gotten that call wrong.  It was not even close that the runner was safe!  It was amazing to see how reserved Galarraga and especially Jim Leyland were after the call was made.
 
Also, the retirement of Ken Griffey, Jr. after 22 years was majorly overshadowed by Joyce Gate.  He deserves all the respect in the world for doing what he did in the field, batter's box, and clubhouse in the face of so much dishonesty in the Steroids Era.
 
How about them Cincinnata Reds? LOL
 
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Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Haven't caught much of it with the Champion's League and the NBA finals ... and the Cubs sucking more than usual.


Cubs suck while the Ranger's blow. Well at least the universe isn't completely out of whack yet.
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Go Sun Devils in this years CWS! The #1 seeds haven't faired very well in the tourney, at least not since the Miami Canes of 99'. Hope ASU can turn that around this year!

*I realize this is a thread for the MLB; just had to get a plug in for my Devils!

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I could not believe it when I heard about the perfect game incident.  Just one out away and it is lost on a botched call, simply stunning.  It reminded me of the Randy Johnson pigeon incident, too incredible to be believed.  (though with human error being involved this was a lot more likely to have happened eventually)

What really grabbed my attention was the retirement of the last of my three favorite baseball players I watched growing up.  Ken Griffey Junior.  (the others being Puckett and Tony Gwynn)   Take away those injuries and he blows Bonds out of the water statistically; never mind in the character and not being a cheater sense.  The end of an era for me; I never met another kid my age who would not imitate his sweet swing when fooling around at practice.  Hard to believe he was around for over two decades. 

On another note I saw my first game at Target Field back in May.  All I can say is wow!  I seemed to be the only Twins fan I have come across that did not loathe the metrodome.  (though I do not deny it was a hovel)  That being said it was pretty amazing to watch a Twins game outside in such an impressive stadium.  (ignoring the fact it was probably in the forties and drizzlingWink)  What was really noticable besides being able to watch the game anywhere on the concourse (the wall dividers being replaced with pillars) was how quick one can take a lap around the place.  Food is expensive as always, but a much bigger menu to choose from.  The walleye was pretty good.Big smile  Possessing the best seats I have had in probably a decade did not hurt either, great experience. 


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Originally posted by Byzantine Emperor Byzantine Emperor wrote:

Thanks for starting the thread, Akolouthos! Big smile
 
Yeah, the botched call on the Galarraga perfect game was awful.  There was no reason why Joyce should have gotten that call wrong.  It was not even close that the runner was safe!  It was amazing to see how reserved Galarraga and especially Jim Leyland were after the call was made.
 
 
Aye. The three of them should do a camp that is mandatory for all athletes from grade school through high school on how to handle difficult situations with sportsmanship and tact. Joyce apologized. Galarraga accepted and defended Joyce, and is extremely likeable and unassuming. Leyland defended Joyce as well. Everyone here acted with the greatest integrity. I now have a new favorite pitcher: go Galarraga!
 
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Is anyone playing in a fantasy baseball league?
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Originally posted by Panther Panther wrote:

Originally posted by es_bih es_bih wrote:

Haven't caught much of it with the Champion's League and the NBA finals ... and the Cubs sucking more than usual.


Cubs suck while the Ranger's blow. Well at least the universe isn't completely out of whack yet.

We need to get rid Soriano, Ramirez, and Lee in a few good trades ... and prepare for next year... 
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It's the Cubs, there's a reason they haven't won in over 100 years.  That's just good management, right there. 
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My mother's mother was into baseball and boxing, so she would follow the games that they televised in Mexico. She followed it better than I did :)

I don't really follow baseball, but I do support the Oakland A's, since I grew up there, and they have the most beautiful colors .

But if someone sets up a fantasy league for AE, with no money involved, then maybe I will be able to follow it.
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Is baseball still as big as it used to be in Mexico, hugo?

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Originally posted by hugoestr hugoestr wrote:

I don't really follow baseball, but I do support the Oakland A's, since I grew up there, and they have the most beautiful colors .

But if someone sets up a fantasy league for AE, with no money involved, then maybe I will be able to follow it.
 
Really?  I am a big fan of the A's too.  You don't find many of them these days since the team as been torn apart and reconstructed so many times.  You grew up in Oakland?
 
It might be interesting to have a fantasy league for AE one of these years.  We should keep that in mind.
 
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Hi, Akolouthos,

I really don't know. It helps to make baseball popular when there are Mexican players in the game. Back in the 80s, Fernando Valenzuela made the L.A. Dodgers the national team.

Up until the 90s, it was a regional sport that was strong in the north of Mexico: very strong in Sinaloa, where I believe Valenzuela came from, and other Northern Mexican states as well. Any place where there was a strong U.S. immigrant connection were places where baseball was popular.

Personal story coming here: in the place where my father grew up, baseball was the one sport that children played, besides cowboying. So my father and my uncles played it, although one of uncles is such a nut for the game that he is in his 80s and still plays it in adult leagues

Hi, Byzantine Emperor,

Yes, I did grow up in Oakland in the late 70s, which I don't recall, and the early 80s. Then I left and came back in the mid 90s to it again, and then I left in 2000, and I lived in the Washington DC metro area ever since.

Have you read Moneyball, the book about the Oakland As and statistics? I just read it, and I thought it was an amazing book. Made me want to pick up statistics again
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Originally posted by Byzantine Emperor Byzantine Emperor wrote:

Originally posted by hugoestr hugoestr wrote:

I don't really follow baseball, but I do support the Oakland A's, since I grew up there, and they have the most beautiful colors .

But if someone sets up a fantasy league for AE, with no money involved, then maybe I will be able to follow it.
 
Really?  I am a big fan of the A's too.  You don't find many of them these days since the team as been torn apart and reconstructed so many times.  You grew up in Oakland?
 
It might be interesting to have a fantasy league for AE one of these years.  We should keep that in mind.
 

Lets start with one for the NFL this year
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Wow, Stephen Strasburg is really something special. Most baseball fans already knew that beforehand (yesterday was widely anticipated), but the kid blew everyone away last night! This kid's got a bright future.
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Baseball??Confused I thought this is a sports thread Evil Smile
 
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It is a sports thread ... show us your 95 mile curve ball and we can talk
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It is a sports thread ... show us your 95 mile curve ball and we can talk
Hello es_bih,
 
95 miles Ouch would that be upon me throwing?Embarrassed or hitting the ball with the bat?Big smile
But it isn't sports right? - more like hitting a ball around - like cricket Dead
 
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Yeah, like cricket with no wickets and the games don't go on for days/weeks; so like cricket just better.
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When I was a kid, some Americans used to play "Softball" as far as I can remember the rules were a bit different from Baseball.
 
Is Softball still being played?
 
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When I was a kid, some Americans used to play "Softball" as far as I can remember the rules were a bit different from Baseball.
 
Is Softball still being played?
 
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Yes, though it's generally played either by girls (in high school and collegiate athletic programs) or purely recreationally.
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Baseball??Confused I thought this is a sports thread Evil Smile
 
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Wow, I don't know where to start.
 
In my opinion, baseball is the hardest game to play. It's one of those sports where each level is increasingly and substantially harder. Moreover, baseball is probably about 70% mental, 30% physical; and one must have exceptional hand-eye coordination.
 
Take, for example, the MLB playoffs. Each game is, for the manager, a chess match. They have to utilize their starters and bullpen responsibly; but -- that being said -- they need to make the adjustments as the series goes on. That's what baeball is all about: the adjustments; whoever makes them quicker generally wins the game.
 
Situations and adjustments, that's what the game is about.
 
But, really, if you've never played the game all this probably sounds unconvincing. As far as softball (even fast-pitch) and baseball goes, they're two completely different animals. 
 
Just ask yourself: Is there a "minor league" for pro football or pro baketball? No, there isn't. The reason baseball has A-ball, AA-ball, and AAA-ball, is because (like I said earlier) each level is so much harder to play at.
 
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Great post arch.buff.  Excellent point about the minor leagues. 
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We need to get rid Soriano, Ramirez, and Lee in a few good trades ... and prepare for next year... 
 
Yeah, Aramis Ramirez has not been the same since he dislocated his shoulder a couple years ago.  His production has declined tremendously.  Alphonso Soriano started out rather promising this year but quickly plummeted.  He has got to be one of the lousiest, bust-signings EVER!
 
Originally posted by hugoestr hugoestr wrote:

Yes, I did grow up in Oakland in the late 70s, which I don't recall, and the early 80s. Then I left and came back in the mid 90s to it again, and then I left in 2000, and I lived in the Washington DC metro area ever since.

Have you read Moneyball, the book about the Oakland As and statistics? I just read it, and I thought it was an amazing book. Made me want to pick up statistics again
 
The Oakland team in the late 80's and early 90's was awesome!  Henderson, Canseco, McGwire, Eckersley, Stewart, the list goes on.  Did you get to see any of these guys play while you were in Oakland?
 
I have read some of Moneyball.  Actually, Nick Swisher is my favorite active player and I was VERY angry when they traded him to the White Sox.  Of course, Billy Bean was intent on rebuilding the team, but I think he should have kept Swisher as a younger vet and core of the new team.  As far as stats go, if there is anything that I like having to do with numbers, it is baseball statistics! LOL
 
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Originally posted by Justinian Justinian wrote:

Great post arch.buff.  Excellent point about the minor leagues. 
 
Thanks, Justinian. Had to plug in a little defense for all those baseball lovers out there!Wink
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